Episode 48: Energy P3's grow up: lessons from the field in 2025

L-R: David Braslau, Leslie Fangman, Mike Walters

Energy public-private partnerships (P3s) have moved beyond the pilot phase. They’re now a serious, scalable strategy for institutions facing aging infrastructure, decarbonization targets, and budget constraints. But a maturing market also brings complexity — in procurement models, financing tools, and internal alignment. In this episode, we talk with three experienced voices from across the P3 deal table about what’s working, what’s changing, and what institutions need to understand before jumping in.

Guests:
David Braslau
Vice President, Project Structuring and Financing, NORESCO
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Leslie Fangman
Principal, Fangman Associates
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Mike Walters
Principal, Salas O’Brien
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Host:
Dave Karlsgodt
Director of Energy and Sustainability
Brailsford & Dunlavey

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Executive producer and host: Dave Karlsgodt
Producer, sound editor: Kristan Crawford
Producers: Karmela Lejarde, Allison Bruns

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Episode 47: From classroom to stadium: the Michigan sustainability model

L-R: The University of Michigan’s Paul Dunlop and Andy Berki. Photos courtesy of the University of Michigan and Second Wave Media.

What does it take to embed sustainability across an entire university—from academic buildings to athletic arenas? In this episode, we sit down with Andy Berki, Director of the Office of Campus Sustainability, and Paul Dunlop, Associate Director of Facility Operations for Michigan Athletics, to explore how the University of Michigan is turning ambitious climate goals into everyday action. From high-impact energy and waste reduction strategies to zero-waste game days at the Big House, Andy and Paul share how Michigan is leading the way in higher education sustainability. Whether you're focused on campus operations, athletics, or institutional strategy, this episode offers real-world insights for creating a culture of sustainability that sticks.

Guests:
Andy Berki
Executive Director of Campus Sustainability
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Paul Dunlop
Associate Athletic Director, Facility Operations
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Host:
Dave Karlsgodt
Director of Energy and Sustainability
Brailsford & Dunlavey

Resources:
Michigan Sports Sustainability
University of Michigan Office of Campus Sustainability

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Producers: Karmela Lejarde, David Almany
Production assistants: Claudia Ahawo, Allison Bruns

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Episode 39: The Cutting Edge with Peter Kelly-Detwiler

Peter Kelly-Detwiler

Peter Kelly-Detwiler

Guest:
Peter Kelly-Detwiler
Cofounder, NorthBridge Energy Partners, LLC

Host: Dave Karlsgodt
Director of Management Advisory Services, Brailsford & Dunlavey, Inc.

In this episode we will talk with journalist, author, and energy consultant Peter Kelly-Detwiler. Our topic: Cutting Edge Campus Climate Tech.

Our mission: help campus decision makers and stakeholders understand "cutting edge" campus decarbonization / reliability / resilience technologies. How can they take advantage of new and emerging technologies while avoid wasting time on ideas that are either empty hype or operationally irrelevant for their campus context?

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Episode 38: The Political Economy of Higher Ed with Dr. Katrina Kelly-Pitou

Dr. Katrina Kelly-Pitou

Dr. Katrina Kelly-Pitou

Guest:
Dr. Katrina Kelly-Pitou
Energy Systems Strategist -
SMITHGROUP

Host: Dave Karlsgodt
Director of Management Advisory Services, Brailsford & Dunlavey, Inc.

In this episode, we talk with with Dr. Katrina Kelly-Pitou, Energy Systems Strategist at SmithGroup. The discussion focuses on what higher education can expect from federal, state and local governments in the near term, but also a broader discussion about the politics and business model of higher ed. itself.  She both challenges conventional ideas and paints a compelling vision for a sustainable future for higher education and the communities in which they operate.

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Episode 37: Designing for the 90% with Kenny Seeton (CSU Dominguez Hills)

Kenny Seeton, Central Plant Manager/Energy Manager at California State University, Dominguez Hills

Kenny Seeton, Central Plant Manager/Energy Manager at California State University, Dominguez Hills

Guest:
Kenny Seeton

Central Plant Manager/Energy Manager at California State University, Dominguez Hills

Host: Dave Karlsgodt
Director of Management Advisory Services, Brailsford & Dunlavey, Inc.

In this episode, we talk with Kenny Seeton, central plant and energy manager at California State University Dominguez Hills. The wide-ranging conversation spans everything from LED retrofits to solar powered golf carts. Kenny talks about how to safely take risks and how to connect systems seeking continuous improvement. He offers up sound advice for energy managers on metering, sensors, occupancy controls, valves, dampers, trend analysis and even phase change materials. This engaging episode is perfect for anyone looking for creative energy solutions for their campus, whether this is your first introduction to energy management or, like Dave and Kenny, you geek out over topics energy efficiency, storage, and more.

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